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Convertible Mustang
November 5, 2012
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SharonT9084
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Hi everyone,

I'm planning an epic trip next May/June with my partner Gary (Chicago-LA on Route 66, followed by Highway 1 and returning scenically to Chicago - 30 days or so). I'm beginning the planning process online from Ireland and I have immediately hit a stumbling block in relation to car hire.

We have our hearts set on completing the journey in a convertible Ford Mustang. It's been a long-time dream and we feel that if we're going to invest our time, energy and cash on this trip, we need to do it right.

I am finding it impossible to find a car hire company that will guarantee me a Ford Mustang convertible. Many companies don't offer this model at all.

Also, we're used to having 'cruise control' on long journeys here in Ireland and will find it imperative for such a long trip. This is also proving elusive when I'm contacting the car hire companies.

Basically, I'm looking for some information on how I can organise this! Has anybody succeeded in hiring this car? All tips would be gratefully appreciated.

Many thanks, Sharon

November 6, 2012
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Sharon--The Mustang convertibles are in EXTREMELY high seasonal demand and you are late in trying to book one for next year.  That said, other Europeans on this site have had good luck with https://www.carhire3000.com.  Another is https://www.orbitz.com and eight more are in the Travel section of my site https://www.rt66pix.com

There is also a brand-new 2013 Chevy Camaro convertible, a rival of the Mustang.  Perhaps this would be an acceptable second choice.  It's about the same size with lots of power. 

Somewhere here on the drivingroute66 site is another interesting idea, proposed by someone else.  Basically, you rent an ordinary car in Chicago, and drive it down 66 to a city that DOES have a Mustang, or Camaro, convertible for rent.  (Perhaps St. Louis, Tulsa, etc.)  You drop off the ordinary car and go in style from there. 

"Cruise control" under US terminology is a steering column lever you activate to maintain a constant speed.  If we're talking about the same thing--it's standard equipment on nearly all cars, and certainly would be on these.  

November 6, 2012
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Thanks Frank,

Yes the time-frame is quite short now. We originally thought we'd be doing it in October 2013 but our circumstances have changed and now it's sooner than anticipated!

Your tips have been very helpful and I greatly appreciate you taking the time to give me this information.

 

I'm just thinking now that it would probably be a good idea to drive a standard car for the first section to get used to it! 

'Cruise control' is exactly as you described - it is a (not often added) optional extra in Europe and we always have to make sure.

November 6, 2012
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Sharon--There's another thread on this site about renting Mustang convertibles.  Some people did not expect the wind noise and/or limited luggage space.  The Camaro would probably be about the same.  

And May-June across the western half of Rt 66...roughly Tulsa OK to Barstow CA...could have some of the hottest weather you have ever experienced, coming from Ireland.  The site https://www.weather.gov will let you research that.  

November 6, 2012
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Hi sharon,I recently booked a mustang or similar with dollar for next sept but it's not cheap and there is a high one way drop off fee but hopefully worth it .

November 6, 2012
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Thanks again. I presumed the weather would be milder earlier in the year? We don't deal particularly well with extremely high temperatures so I'm grateful that you've mentioned this.

 

I'm actually seeing a Mustang coupe on Avis that I'm tempted by. I have also heard that it's possible to rent an 'exotic car' in Las Vegas area. We could live the dream and have a convertible for a day! Anybody ever done this?

November 6, 2012
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Sharon--The hottest spot along Rt 66 is typically Needles CA, right near the AZ line.  Weather records show the average daytime high in May is 95 F or 35 C...and in June 104 F (40 C).  That whole CA desert stretch will be similar.

By comparison, the hottest day EVER recorded in the UK is 38.5 C.  

Fortunately, the entire Route 66 trip isn't like that.  Amarillo TX (location of the Cadillac Ranch) hits a typical 79 F (26 C) in May and 87 F (31 C) in June.  

I've seen ads for exotic car rentals in both Las Vegas and Beverly Hills (Los Angeles).  These apparently are for local rental only.  

November 7, 2012
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nick17 said:

Hi sharon,I recently booked a mustang or similar with dollar for next sept but it's not cheap and there is a high one way drop off fee but hopefully worth it .

Thanks Nick17, we've been looking at your suggestion and we're finding it extremely difficult to make a decision! The 'or similar' option hasn't worked out for us in the past so we're reluctant to do this.

We'll probably rent a mid-range car (the Jeep Wrangler on Hertz is amusing us at the moment) and subsequently try to hire a Mustang for a day in Las Vegas.

November 7, 2012
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frank said:

Sharon--The hottest spot along Rt 66 is typically Needles CA, right near the AZ line.  Weather records show the average daytime high in May is 95 F or 35 C...and in June 104 F (40 C).  That whole CA desert stretch will be similar.

By comparison, the hottest day EVER recorded in the UK is 38.5 C.  

Fortunately, the entire Route 66 trip isn't like that.  Amarillo TX (location of the Cadillac Ranch) hits a typical 79 F (26 C) in May and 87 F (31 C) in June.  

I've seen ads for exotic car rentals in both Las Vegas and Beverly Hills (Los Angeles).  These apparently are for local rental only.  

Thanks Frank - the temperatures you mention will probably challenge us a bit - Ireland doesn't tend to see the high temperatures that the UK reaches, we're generally several degrees cooler! We'll have to find a way to manage nonetheless. Incidentally, the forum is providing us with some fantastic insight into planning our itinerary, we're very grateful for all the guidance. 

November 7, 2012
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Thought I would put my 10 cents worth in here.

From my visits to the USA over the years I personally would hire a mid size SUV – (for us in the UK and Ireland, mid size SUV's are massive Sharon).

Certainly more comfortable – ride height can be an advantage, those other big vehicles on the road don't seem as intimidating, massive amounts of boot space for all that mall and outlet shopping you might do, easier to climb into after that visit to the diner, and generally a lot cheaper than a Mustang and your head won't fry in the desert!
I remember watching the temp gauge when driving through Death Valley - scary!! 
 

I have seen these luxury rentals in Las Vegas, Ferraris, Porsche etc, believe they do allow for international drivers licences but a lot will have mileage limitations on them so sticking to The Strip and local area is as far a field you could go.
The traffic on The Strip of an evening means you wont be going to far anyway! 🙂

Thought this would look a bit nicer than a Mustang: https://www.dreamcarrentals.co.....to68.php 

 

David

November 8, 2012
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David Asher said:

Thought I would put my 10 cents worth in here.

From my visits to the USA over the years I personally would hire a mid size SUV – (for us in the UK and Ireland, mid size SUV's are massive Sharon).

Certainly more comfortable – ride height can be an advantage, those other big vehicles on the road don't seem as intimidating, massive amounts of boot space for all that mall and outlet shopping you might do, easier to climb into after that visit to the diner, and generally a lot cheaper than a Mustang and your head won't fry in the desert!
I remember watching the temp gauge when driving through Death Valley - scary!! 
 

I have seen these luxury rentals in Las Vegas, Ferraris, Porsche etc, believe they do allow for international drivers licences but a lot will have mileage limitations on them so sticking to The Strip and local area is as far a field you could go.
The traffic on The Strip of an evening means you wont be going to far anyway! 🙂

Thought this would look a bit nicer than a Mustang: https://www.dreamcarrentals.co.....to68.php 

 

David

Thanks David. We're a bit torn at the moment in relation to the vehicle choice! The choice of vehicle is as important to us as anything else! It was always the plan to do it in a Mustang Convertible. However, we're coming to realise that this may be both impossible and impractical. We certainly don't want our heads to fry!

November 8, 2012
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Hi folks, I'm back again with a related query!

We originally intended to drive Route 66 in September-October 2013, but this turned out to clash with a few other commitments so we began to plan for May-June instead.

I'm now wondering if those of you who have the experience and knowledge could tell what 20th October-20th November approximately is likely to be like on the road? I think I read before that this is slightly beyond the end of season, attractions etc could be closed.

November 8, 2012
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Sharon--This is indeed at the end of the season.  One typical example is 4 Women on the Route in Galena Kansas...best known as the home of Tow Tater (the truck that inspired Tow Mater in the "Cars" movies).  The truck is outside and can be enjoyed year-round, but the gas station/snack bar inside is normally open "April-October." 

That said, the Cadillac Ranch, Pops, Blue Whale etc. etc. stay open year-round.  The various museums too, with some exceptions around Christmas-New Year.

It's also possible (not likely) you will encounter snow en route, especially toward mid-November.  And the days are much shorter. 

If you can do it then, May-June is ideal for your trip. 

November 8, 2012
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Thanks again Frank.

It's highly likely that we'll go in May-June - once we can get ourselves organised.

Thanks for all your help. Sharon

November 22, 2012
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Hi again,

Good news - we've finalised our dates - commencing 26th May in Chicago. We've booked two vehicles - one 'ordinary' one to get us from Chicago to Las Vegas. And the second a 'Convertible Corvette', which we hope will entice the same thrills as a Mustang would/could have! We're happy enough with the vehicle choice, and we're even enduring 2 drop off fees to allow the dream to happen!

We've decided upon our itinerary as follows if anybody is interested! We've checked the approximate mileage on Google maps and think this is quite a manageable itinerary. However we're anticipating some degree of flexibility and may either overshoot or arrive late to some of these destinations – without causing ourselves much concern (displaying the wonderful Irish mentality of 'ah it'll be fine!!') As you can see, we've added quite a bit onto the end of the trip. Again, we're not quite sure where or when we're going to finish - we could fly home via New York if time allows. We've committed to dates and destinations for picking up and dropping off vehicles and we'll certainly book the Grand Canyon accommodation. Thanks for all the advice, hints etc. Feel free to comment if this itinerary is seeming a bit crazy. Sharon

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Chicago IL
Chicago IL
Springfield IL
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Springfield MO
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Amarillo
Albuquerque
Flagstaff
Grand Canyon
Grand Canyon
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November 25, 2012
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SharonT9084 said:

Hi again,

Good news - we've finalised our dates - commencing 26th May in Chicago. We've booked two vehicles - one 'ordinary' one to get us from Chicago to Las Vegas. And the second a 'Convertible Corvette', which we hope will entice the same thrills as a Mustang would/could have! We're happy enough with the vehicle choice, and we're even enduring 2 drop off fees to allow the dream to happen!

We've decided upon our itinerary as follows if anybody is interested! We've checked the approximate mileage on Google maps and think this is quite a manageable itinerary. However we're anticipating some degree of flexibility and may either overshoot or arrive late to some of these destinations – without causing ourselves much concern (displaying the wonderful Irish mentality of 'ah it'll be fine!!') As you can see, we've added quite a bit onto the end of the trip. Again, we're not quite sure where or when we're going to finish - we could fly home via New York if time allows. We've committed to dates and destinations for picking up and dropping off vehicles and we'll certainly book the Grand Canyon accommodation. Thanks for all the advice, hints etc. Feel free to comment if this itinerary is seeming a bit crazy. Sharon

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Chicago IL
Chicago IL
Springfield IL
St Louis MO
Springfield MO
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Albuquerque
Flagstaff
Grand Canyon
Grand Canyon
Las Vegas
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The only bit of advice I can give regarding driving Highway 1, and it may not be possible in your case, is to do it from San Francisco down to Los Angeles.  That way you will have the ocean and all its views on your right side.  Also make sure you stop off at Cambria to see the opulence of Hearst Castle.

 

Cheers

 

Wotacroc  

Drove Route 66 in 2012.

November 29, 2012
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Sharon--The plan looks good.  Let me suggest a couple of ideas since you are flexible on time:

1) Substituting Shamrock TX for Amarillo allows you to enjoy buildings from the "Cars" movies--the U-Drop Inn and adjoining art deco gas station lit up at night (they're not impressive in sunlight).  There's also a lovely restored Magnolia gas station in downtown, 10-blocks south.  Shamrock has 500+ motel rooms, and staying here (instead of Amarillo) cuts the mileage--allowing time during that day to hit Route 66 museums in Clinton and Elk City OK.  Both are very good--and very different.  

2) After Shamrock, ADD a night in Tucumcari NM at either the Blue Swallow Motel or Motel Safari--both highlights of any Route 66 trip.  The following night would then be in Albuquerque, allowing you to sample Santa Fe during the day, and then enjoy neon along Central Avenue in Albuquerque. 

3) Your plan implies a Las Vegas-Barstow CA leg, which would miss the unique and fascinating Oatman area in Western Arizona.  Detailed information is in another thread, along with the suggested routing--branching off at Kingman AZ and returning there from Las Vegas.  You could overnight at Needles CA. 

I also think your car choices are solid if you are prepared for the limited luggage space in the Vette.  

January 18, 2013
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Hi again,

We're having a great time planning our trip.

So far we've booked our accommodation in Chicago, Springfield IL and Cuba MO.

We've organised a hot air balloon ride in Kayenta - Monument Valley - and a helicopter tour of the Grand Canyon (as well as exciting accommodation in both of these areas). We've also arranged to swap cars in Caesar's Palace Las Vegas and will stay there for 2 nights.

 

We would like to visit the Route 66 Drive-in in Carthage and will probably stay in Carthage or Joplin that night (we don't want to double back to Springfield MO for overnight accommodation) - does anyone have suggestions for accommodation in either of these areas?

We would also like to visit a shooting range somewhere to partake in some light target practice/introductory shooting - possibly around Oklahoma or Amarillo. Again, suggestions are welcome.

 

It seems that we'll be visiting Death Valley (as far as Furnace Creek Visitors Centre at least) sometime between 9-11th June. In a convertible. Any survival tips would be welcome. We are prepared to embark at 6am if required to manage the temperatures a bit better.

Thanks again, Sharon

January 19, 2013
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Sharon–

A classic place in Carthage is the Boots Motel on Rt 66.  Joplin has lots of chain motels.  The drive-in operates weekends only, but you probably knew that. 

Try Googling "gun dealer" or "firing range" for Oklahoma City or Amarillo.  Those are the common terms here.  Out in Vegas there's a place that will let you shoot machine guns and semi-automatics.  Check out https://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com. 

In general, to deal with the desert take plenty of water.  A cheap insulated 2-gallon water jug can be picked up at Walmart or supermarket after you arrive.  Wear a hat, light-colored loose-fitting clothing, and avoid exerting yourself.  You'll be going through well before the peak heat of summer, but you'll likely have the convertible top up and the A/C running.     

January 19, 2013
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frank said:

Sharon–

A classic place in Carthage is the Boots Motel on Rt 66.  Joplin has lots of chain motels.  The drive-in operates weekends only, but you probably knew that. 

Try Googling "gun dealer" or "firing range" for Oklahoma City or Amarillo.  Those are the common terms here.  Out in Vegas there's a place that will let you shoot machine guns and semi-automatics.  Check out https://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com. 

In general, to deal with the desert take plenty of water.  A cheap insulated 2-gallon water jug can be picked up at Walmart or supermarket after you arrive.  Wear a hat, light-colored loose-fitting clothing, and avoid exerting yourself.  You'll be going through well before the peak heat of summer, but you'll likely have the convertible top up and the A/C running.     

Frank - conveniently we will be in Carthage on a Friday evening so we hope that the drive-in will be showing something interesting. I suspect we'll go along regardless.

The Las Vegas range does look interesting - I'll look into it a bit more and hopefully plan something.

I appreciate the reassurances in relation to the desert - I was browsing a forum and was arriving at the impression that it was a poor idea to go at all, but I'm sure we'll be fine!

Many thanks again for all your assistance. I'll probably be back again when I think of something else to do! Sharon

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